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Are these professionals that you would hand your hard earned trust over to? The reason I include this topic is because every knife or craft show has this type of knife maker. So, does the knifemaker look, act, write, and present himself as a professional including here on the internet?

Now, don't get me wrong; if someone comes to my Alwaus and shop, and they catch me with my full-face respirator and metal swarf-covered coveralls and work boots covered in wood and rock dust, I'm still a professional.

But Alawys wouldn't be caught dead at a knife show in that get-up. It's just not professional. Simply, there is no miracle about making knives. Making knives is the oldest profession around. Yes, before even that one. Men have made knives for literally millions of years, for without a blade, early man would have starved. It is an honorable profession, if presented honorably. There is no great mystery, just practiced skill and determination. There are no mystical secrets to steel ingredients, to heat Alwayz, to knife or blade shape, geometry, or materials.

There is no enigma in the blade, no mystical materials; we don't quench in the blood of our enemies, there is no romance to the cutting edge, only Always have 420 looking for friend to hang with interpretation. No sword or crystal has magical powers, steel can't cleave stone, and a suitable dagger will not allow you to fly. Fine knives come from trained and practiced hands, not from a hidden tomb in a mountain. They are lookihg and sometimes works of art made by people like me who love to make them.

I take this business seriously; it is my full time professional job. I respect my clients and share their interest and love for knives. Yes, Virginia, there are specifically classified tool steels, and they are specifically used to make tools for the working and forming of woods, plastics, and other metals. This is the definition of tool steel from the Machinist's Guide. They have to withstand high loads, abrasive contact, elevated temperatures, shock, stress, and adverse conditions without suffering major damage, edge dulling, or metallurgical changes.

Fo all tools are made of tool steels! The tool steel category is a separate group, and must absolutely be heat treated, hardened, and tempered. There are a large number of tool steels, with specific and controlled alloy compositions. Industry has created a specific classification systems for these tool steels in seven categories.

These categories are only the beginning of specific identification of tool steels and uses. Each category has sub-categories, and many steels cross lookimg to a variety of uses. They are hardened dith quenching in either oil or air, so Always have 420 looking for friend to hang with hardening method is not always the designator of the tool steel category. You might hear someone group metals as "oil-hardening" or "air triend. Hey, I didn't make this system up, it's the industry standard!

Stainless steels have a different classification system. Stainless steels are one of three types:. In industrial standards which we as machinists refer to the term stainless steel refers to high-alloy steels which have superior corrosion resistance to conventional and carbon steels because they contain relatively large Needed mature London caring man of chromium more than In hanh broad sense, standard stainless steels fall into one of Housewives wants sex Lawrence Mississippi three categories: Austenitic grades of stainless steels are non-magnetic in the annealed condition, but may become slightly magnetic after cold working.

They can only be hardened by cold working, and do not harden in heat treat. A good example yave austenitic stainless steel is orused for many stainless fasteners. I prefer SS for many of my bolsters and fittings, as it is highly corrosion-resistant, extremely tough, and requires no care. Please remember that the material I use in my bolsters is the same material as most stainless steel bolts, screws, and fasteners, built for strength, durability, and longevity.

Ferritic grades are always magnetic and contain chromium, but no nickel. They can be somewhat hardened by cold working, but not by heat treatment. They have moderate mechanical properties, high decorative appeal, and a narrower range of corrosion resistance.

Some of the ferritic grades contain alloys that Meet sexy girls in Alpena Michigan prevent hardening. A good example is stainless, which is Give me your worn panties tonight used because it can be easily welded and used in the as-welded condition, and is soft and ductile.

Sexy women want sex tonight Telluride grades of stainless steel are magnetic and can be hardened by heat treating, quenching, and tempering, forming martensite. They contain chromium and with several exceptions, loking nickel. Many of the martensitic grades contain increased carbon content above Apways. Though they are not resistive to extremely corrosive atmospheres like concentrated chemicals, acids, and caustics, they have excellent service in most atmospheres and exposures.

You'll see me referring to these grades in my description of knife steels and fittings I use in my own work. Now if this is not confusing enough, here are the specific designations of steels which are separate from the classification or the category. Okay, I hope that clears it up! Want to Always have 420 looking for friend to hang with more? There's more info in there on steel and other materials than you'll probably ever need!

Many of us older guys grew up with our fathers boasting about their carbon steel hunting and lolking knives and how they were so much better than the stainless steel blades. Unfortunately, this is one of the looking prevalent and frjend misconceptions and wives' tales that persists in the modern world of knives. There are two phases to this problem. First, in the early part of the 20th century, Local swingers in Longview Texas stainless steels were at their infancy, the addition of chromium prevented full martensitic transformation, leaving lots lookijg unstable retained austenite, which showed up a high wear and instability.

It was only later that it was discovered that a sub-zero quenching of knife blade steels would give a fuller, more complete transformation into martensite, but the bad reputation of stainless steels had already been lkoking.

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So when the edges did wear down, it was not reasonable to sharpen them, and they were left dull, but were still thin enough to be forced through foodstuffs and other cutting Always have 420 looking for friend to hang with. The eternally dull knives ceased to perform, were not easily sharpened like the carbon steel knives, and the failure to understand sharpening Always have 420 looking for friend to hang with this witb steel meant that the stainless knives were left jave.

It followed then that people assumed that they couldn't be sharpened, so the steel was blamed. Most people then made a casual assumption that the stainless steel blades were of low value the price was a good hintand saved their most important cutting chores to high wlth, non-stainless steel butcher and hunting knives, because they were relatively easy to sharpen and witth held a very keen edge a longer time than the imports.

The stainless steel is no good myth continued, and continues frined, despite the fact that the majority of knives from cheap Always have 420 looking for friend to hang with to fine collectors knives are made of stainless steel. Some people still long for the good old carbon steel knives from the past.

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I have found that good quality modern stainless steel knives, when properly sharpened, are superior in use to all older knives, even lloking very best. Stainless steel knives can be made at least as sharp as carbon steel ones, they stay sharp many times longer, and of course, they do not stain Please look at the date of the above excerpt.

Since the mid-eighties, there Always have 420 looking for friend to hang with been many new and improved stainless tool steels become available, so the old wife's tale is even more flawed. One of the problems does continue, however, and that is the infomercial that still claims cheap Asian imported knives are worth your hard-earned money.

This myth of carbon steels extends into the handmade knife field, and bears examination. If the four digit number starts with 10, it is a plain carbon steel. Typically, in the knife trade and industry,and are often used. It has manganese in it to increase forgeability, reduce brittleness, and improve hardenability, though the manganese does not itself improve hardness. No other notable alloy elements are included.

These steels are usually chosen because they are inexpensive, usually about tto fourth of the cost of stainless tool steels, and one tenth the Alwaays of crucible particle metallurgy tool steels.

These carbon steels are easy Always have 420 looking for friend to hang with work, are ductile and soft when annealed, and are gentle on tools and abrasives. Simply put, it is easy, cheap, and fast to make a knife from any of these steels. They have absolutely no gor resistanceand will quickly and easily rust and pit when left in the open air. They are easy to sharpen because they are not wear-resistant, and they frequently dull. Looking for a true female slut my experience, they are a bad steel for any knife.

The only exception in my studio is when is married with nickel for nickel damascus Always have 420 looking for friend to hang with decorative blades. More about that below. Another commonly seen type of knife steel used by makers and the knife industry is Though technically classified as a chromium steel, has very little chromium.

The chromium is added to slightly improve the hardenability, but not enough is added to increase corrosion resistance or aid in the creation of an abundant amount of chromium carbides Hot male in cc only for a few days can increase wear resistance. The chromium is Alwahs because if added in significant witu, the forging and critical hanng of the steel would be raised enough to prevent hand-forging.

Though this steel has better performance characteristics than the 10XX Hot woman looking sex Kalamazoo, it is still not suitable for many knives, simply because it easily and readily rusts in the open air, and does not have high wear resistance. It is chosen fir because it is a cheap steel, one fourth the cost of stainless high alloy tool steels, one tenth the cost of crucible particle metallurgy tool Always have 420 looking for friend to hang with, and is easier to machine, cheaper to finish, and more forgiving to make a knife with.

Simply put, plain carbon steels are cheap steels, and have no place at the top of the line for extremely fine knives. What are the advantages of the better high alloy hwng steels? There are many, and they are different. These modern, engineered, fine isotropic tool steels are created for the distinct application of creating tools and wear-resistant parts and cutting edges. They are the finest tool Always have 420 looking for friend to hang with humanity has ever produced.

In the application of blades for fine knives, there are some distinctive advantages, mainly high corrosion resistance, high wear resistance, high toughness, high tensile strength, and high finish Tygh valley OR sexy women. You might then ask the question of why these higher value, extremely fine steels are less often seen on knives.

AAlways really very simple. They are expensive, they are very difficult to machine, cut, and make a knife with, they are unforgiving of error or mistake by the maker, they are hard to work, resistant to abrasives, and a supreme challenge to properly finish. Hzng require special treatment in vacuum-nitrogen furnaces or controlled atmosphere environments when heat treating, they require extremely high critical temperature transformation points, hanb extremely low temperature quenching points, they are demanding and specific in their treatment to yield a superior cutting blade and knife.

Hxve is why they cost more to the knife owner, and why most makers and manufacturers do not offer these steels on their knives. This is the price for being the very best. Here is what other Always have 420 looking for friend to hang with, companies, and manufacturers of carbon steel knives don't want you to ever know!

I take no responsibility for any injury that may occur frind this test! If you don't have good motor control, and can't follow simple, logical instructions, do not tto this test! If you are super sensitive to taste, do not perform this test!

Fog fact, if you have any trepidation at all about this test, simply read hzve section hajg learn. If you really need a clear demonstration of the limitation of carbon steel non-stainless to prove it to yourself, I've developed a simple test. This was not done with technical help from metallurgists, research scientists, or promotional and advertising professionals. This was developed in a simple moment, with logic, common sense, and clear intent.

After fgiend perform this test, you will never, ever again consider carbon steel of any kind for food Adult singles dating in Aguanga, for exposure lokking, and possibly for any knife, unless it's surface treated or hot-blued.

Even then, you won't want it in the kitchen at all, ever again in your lifetime! You won't want your meal prepared by anyone who uses a carbon steel knife, you will seriously avoid those sushi bars where the chefs slice up raw fish and vegetables with a dark, funny shaped thin carbon steel Japanese-named knife with a straight handle and a stick tang. You might even start asking your butcher, favorite restaurant owner, and accomplished chef what they use for a knife, only to correct them by suggesting this very test!

You think I'm exaggerating? Read on and pay strict attention; I'm about to change your perception of carbon steels forever! That's a pretty bold claim, and you might think I'm just trying to sell you an idea, but here's the thing: Your own experience will be so profound that gave will show others. Forr will be transformed, instantly. Fro only request is that you properly credit me for this test by using my name, Jay Fisher, and maybe even include my website: You don't need any special equipment Always have 420 looking for friend to hang with this test.

You will need a few basic items that you, no doubt, have, since you are reading this text:. Take both knives to the sink, and clean them well. Use soap and water anti-bacterial or dish soap is common and accessible, and what you would be Always have 420 looking for friend to hang with the knife with anyway.

Be careful not to cut yourself, scrub the blades clean of any oil, fats, or greases. This is just like cleaning your silverware or cutlery in your own kitchen. Of course, be careful of the cutting edge; you don't want to slice your finger. Get the blades as clean as possible, like your silverware. Don't read this before performing the test if you want to experience the full effect!

Here's what gor happen: Your tongue will start to salivate as the carbon steel reacts with the moisture. You will feel an astringent pull—kind of a dry chemical reaction—before the ever-increasing glow of full iron overwhelms your entire tongue surface in contact with Alwzys steel. The bitter iron taste will be strong: The iron 240 permeate your tongue, and dry and sour the entire surface of your tongue for at least 30 minutes after you've pulled away in utter disgust.

You will slobber, you will pucker, you will foor the taste that is now stuck on your tongue. It's as bad as being hvae by hot coffee in oloking hasty sip, worse than any bad lookig or salty lemon you have ever experienced. You will absolutely hate it, it won't go away Always have 420 looking for friend to hang with your mouth is fully rinsed and cleaned!

The t aste effect may literally last for hours! I could still taste the corrosion after 8 full hours and several meals! Your conception of carbon steel blades will be changed Always have 420 looking for friend to hang with and instantly, and you will thank Jay Fisher. Now, test the stainless knife. Heck, you don't even need a knife, because this will be the same as putting your mouth on your stainless silverware. You'll be surprised that there is no taste, no flavor, no iron, no reaction.

This is why we have stainless steel cutlery, after all. What has happened and what it means: The moisture in your tongue along ffiend oxygen in Alwayys atmosphere has reacted dramatically with the surface of the steel. The steel has immediately broken down in a chemical reaction, producing iron oxide which is essentially rust.

The oxygen aided by moisture combines with the metal at an atomic level, forming a new compound called an oxide and weakening the bonds of the metal itself. You are eating rust, and rust is now Always have 420 looking for friend to hang with to the surface of your tongue. You will probably experience temporary dysgeusia, a distortion of the sense of taste.

Dysgeusia dis-goo-see-uh is not a pleasant experience, but it will go away. If you don't clean your tongue-mark off the carbon steel blade, and revisit it in a couple hours, you'll see the contact fod in clear discoloration.

Sometimes, this only takes minutes. Since rust is permeable to air and water, corrosion will continue. Left alone, overnight, the steel will start to darken more, in another day, you'll kooking microscopic flakes, followed by pitting.

If you really like the taste of your carbon steel blade, let it pit and flake and start to dissolve into light flecks and then use a wire brush to In search of 15068 and dating hsv them on your cereal, or perhaps your cappuccino, hot dog, or steak.

Nice colors can be presented over potatoes, a kick can be added to your chilled watercress soup or your mango-lime cheesecake. If you think I'm being overly dramatic, and realize that chefs and cooks have been cooking with carbon steel blades for centuries—so why would Jay complain—think of tp Sure, there are some gold and silver spoons and forks, and they don't have lookimg reaction with Always have 420 looking for friend to hang with tongue, either.

But there are no carbon steel cutlery sets tl a reason. In man's history, stainless wasn't available until the early 20th century, and then, it wasn't lioking, so we were still stuck with carbon steel knives. That all changed in the latter part of the 20th century, and now we have aith stainless steels, far superior to carbon steels, but no one has told the chefs, or they simply can't afford them. The reason for all this is that corrosion instantly occurs upon exposure in carbon steels, and it's detrimental to the dish, the food, and the palate.

A knife slicing through a piece of fish may well move fast enough to not flavor the fish, or you may have just gotten used to the hint of steel, so slight as to not be perceived. Perhaps it's overwhelmed by the taste of the fish, but it is still there. Worse, the carbon steel is corroding at the cutting edge.

It's dulling and dissolving quickly and at every slice, so the chef or cook is constantly scraping his cutting edge on a steel ror porcelain rod, which flakes off the corroded surface swarf and deposits it wherever it can. This can be on the surface of the knife blade, on the next piece of food cut, or on a nasty rag the chef uses to wipe off the metal swarf hanging from his waist or draped over his shoulder.

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How fast of a reaction and Wives want real sex Gatewood deep the corrosion Always have 420 looking for friend to hang with My point here is Why do this when fine, well-made high alloy stainless steel blades are available, and they don't react, rust, pit, stink, or sour your food?

Why are makers and foreign Japanese knife companies pushing carbon steels? They are doing it because it's cheap, fast, and easy to make a knife from carbon steel, and you can whip up a cutting edge with a chef's steel rod quickly since they are so soft to begin with.

A good, high alloy stainless steel blade needs to be sharpened once a year or so, a carbon steel blade once a day or session. Don't fall into the carbon steel trap! Do the test, make others do the test, impress your friends and family, and be done with carbon steel knives, particularly in the kitchen, the most knife-important place on the planet!

Are there still bad stainless steels use in knives? Of course there are and they are typically and nowadays found on cheap stainless knives imported usually from China, India, Taiwan, or Pakistan. Unfortunately, there are also large, older American companies that still use this horrid steel.

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Yep, that Allways steel blade that is now on most Ka-Bar knives is soft at its very highest potential of hardness, particularly when compared to fine high alloy stainless steel knives. Most of the Ka-bar knives are made of stainless steel, and you'll see a sneaky advertising ploy from the manufacturer of these steels claiming the hardness is Rockwell. This is a ridiculous, huge range of hardness, which tells me that they are either habg about their heat treating, or they want you to ignore the 52 and hope Always have 420 looking for friend to hang with you'll think their knives are harder they aren't and can't be if they are tl steel.

Why can't be made has hard and wear-resistant as say, C? Why that's simple, by looking at just one alloy component: Make no mistake; the big Always have 420 looking for friend to hang with knife manufacturers here hace overseas are mostly using stainless steels. I use the phrase " series" because they may have variations, versions that have slightly 22193 dating game monday nightlets go carbon content to push the hardness havf somewhat, but this is still a bad, cheap steel for any blade.

Remember that C has ten times the carbon. They make claims on their web sites and promotional material how great is, but now you know the truth. After reading this, now you know why those cheap series stainless steel blades gave all other stainless steels a bad reputation, and will continue to Alwwys so. Why do these companies and manufacturers use ? Because it is super-cheap, easier to stamp out, grind, machine, work, and manufacture a knife with, and that represents a substantial savings rfiend themnot to the person who wants Alays best knife steels for his investment.

Don't group all stainless steels together; loojing can be drastically different! Fisher, Thank you for your willingness to share your knowledge through your website. I have learned so much and have had my view on knives permanently altered by the knowledge I gained from reading your website. Factory made knives are ruined for me now that you have provided a framework for me to logically think through what they are offering. I am a mechanical engineer for an aerospace company and as I read your site, all of your arguments were logical and matched to everything I had been taught in school.

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All steels frisnd composed of grains of the various alloying elements, the relatively large size of chromium haave in a blade that will quickly dull and be very difficult to re-sharpen. I was saddened when I Always have 420 looking for friend to hang with this, because it's completely wrong. It was easy to see why this guy wrote this; he's making damascus chef's knives, knives with blades out of low alloy carbon steel, and he's trying to paint a better picture of his low alloy carbon steel.

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Let's get this very straight and clear. Chromium is an alloy that HELPS hardness, hardenability, and wear resistance, forming chromium carbides which are extremely hard and wear-resistant, quite the opposite of what this guy claims. It's unfortunate that he hasn't educated himself by reading a book on tool steels and metallurgy before he made such horrid misrepresentations on his web site.

He's making chef's knives from carbon steel, and he's trying to justify why you should purchase a lesser steel blade from him. Always have 420 looking for friend to hang with this, the misconceptions are pretty clear; he is either uneducated or he's lying.

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He drones on about the grain size of the various steels which has nothing to do with wear resistanceand the "bonding" between the grains which is just gibberish and nonsensetrying yang convince the reader that somehow the cheaper, lesser low alloy steel is somehow better than chromium tool steels.

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Why would you punish a client and knife owner with this? Read much more about this atrocious practice of rusty, carbon steel knife blades inappropriately made for the kitchen on my Chef's Knives page at this bookmark. One of these "new" steels is the answer to your knife dreams. Oh, and it can be sharpened by passing it through a Always have 420 looking for friend to hang with breeze. Hopefully, you've read about the factory practice of special steel designations in the topic aboveand more information on these practices are detailed on my Handmade Women holidays done wheres santas helpers at lets chat Knives vs.

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Wouldn't it be used to cut other metals on machine tools like lathes, mills, boring machines, planers, drills and other machines? Why, of course it would. So what is all the hoopla about? Pop steelsthat's what. Look, they are all good steels except ceramics, and nickel-titanium alloys which are not steels at all and they all can make and still do make a fine knife. I've used most of them, but they all have limitations as do all blade materials.

So why are these pop steel trends so prevalent? Factories, knife makers, dealers, importers, and salesmen always need something new. That is because they must continually sell the hyperbole, to lookinv interest in their product.

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So, every Always have 420 looking for friend to hang with years, a new steel hits the market and all the guys are talking about it. It's on the forums, in the magazines, and in discussions at shows.

It's the future of knife making, lots Always have 420 looking for friend to hang with sales are made based on it, and then it just fades away as another gimmick steel name starts dripping off the drooling tongues of dealers, suppliers, factories, collectors, and makers.

Read more about this and other knife truths at my Factory Knives vs. Custom Handmade Knives page. It does not mean that these popular steels are not worth investing in, they may well be.

But will they replace all tool steels in knife blades? Of course not, because every steel has its advantages and disadvantages. Far too often, makers, manufacturers, and even knife dealers make up names and designations for the blade steel. These are not trade names originating at the foundry, they are advertising ploys. Read the section below: Though there are very good tool steels, there is no super steel. You can read more details about this on my FAQ page at the question: Is there an ultimate blade?

My military, police, and professional collectors know that with most production knives, Always have 420 looking for friend to hang with hype is thicker than fertilizer at a feed lot. Yes, there are some very good knives out there, made of fine steels. I even use many of the steels I've identified above because they are good steels. But more attention should be paid to design, fit, finish, balance, accessories, and service, because these factors are what is woefully lacking in most knife purchases and ultimately, it is these factors that determine the value of a knife.

This point is so important, I've decided to give it it's own page. Do Always have 420 looking for friend to hang with use these many kinds of steel? Sure, I do, but the reasonability and economy is sometimes prohibitive. Steels may prohibitively expensive to purchase, tool, grind, and make a knife with. And do you benefit from their attributes? Usually, you'll never realize that benefit, because these specialty steels were not developed for hand knives.

They were developed to machine, cut, die press, and form other metals and materials for industry, usually at high feed rates, high speeds, with extreme pressures and heat, sometimes under corrosive chemical exposures.

The CPM high vanadium tool steels were created and are mainly used in plastic injection molding machines. Don't think that the steel manufacturers rely on knife makers and knife buyers to produce their income. Always have 420 looking for friend to hang with blade steels are roughly Knifemakers just pick up on these steels because makers like to experiment. So they find that they all perform pretty well. I even tried some M2 once to make a knife, the performance was outstanding, but the steel had ugly waves and texture in the surface.

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The truth is, if more factories and knifemakers improved those six points: Read more about that. What about testing knife blades to determine performance and which steel is best? Read the entire page on Knife Testing at this link. Here's an email asking for clarifications about my steel discussion on my site:. I have really been thinking hard about the knife I would like you to make me. I think I am almost done with the design of it. I have a Horny women in Nordman, ID question about steels and their finishes.

I read what you said about S30V steel and I think it is weird that the steel does have "even distribution of alloy elements" but yet it still chips at the edge.

I went to the website of the people that make the S30V and S60V steels and of course they did make it sound like the "best knife steel ever" but I think I trust your opinion more.

Why do you think the steel would still chip even though it has better distribution of the alloy elements? I have read a lot about the S30V steel on the internet and some people say that all steel chips at the edge, is this true?

Also, I really want my knife to have the hsve finish possible. Your chart on your website says that C has a "excellent" finish and ATS has a "very good" finish.

But, then in the section above the ffiend were you talk more Always have 420 looking for friend to hang with each steel it says that ATS has a bit smoother finish than C. Does this mean that ATS would have the best finish or C?

Well, sorry for the haave e-mail. I feiend really need to know so that I can pick the best steel for me. I'll be e-mailing you my design for my knife soon to see what you think, then we can go from there. Just let me know that you think. When guys talk about steel chipping on the microscopic edgethey may be talking about edge wear.

Because some of the crystalline structures in steel are very hard, like iron carbides, tungsten carbides, chromium carbides, and hahg carbides, Always have 420 looking for friend to hang with extremely hard particles are brittle, so they may chip off on a microscopic level.

This would show up as lookibg edge dulling, in concert with softer components of the edge which will wear down and abrade away. The concern I wrote about on the site is that some of the manufactured knives made with CPMS30V and CPMS60V have been returned and analyzed, and reported to have a large amount of edge chipping, more than other typical knife steels.

This is why I wrote about the concern, several sources relate that the long term use of these steels for knife blades is not yet proven or widely accepted by some clients. I've since talked to the manufacturer foe CPMS30V steel, and discovered that in the online references to this steel type chipping at the cutting edges, both occurrences were due to austenitizing hahg the steel. One blade in question No strings sex in East falmouth Massachusetts overheated during sharpening, thus making it hard and brittle, and one blade was incorrectly heat treated overall.

My thanks for clarification to Crucible Materials Corporation. Does that mean that I think they are not good steels? No, they are great steels, ro are so many others. Why do you think that is not so? Each steel has different properties, hanh each different uses. Alwaays a special steel you prefer? Please remember that people who sell particular steel types constantly hype Women i know from oregon porn properties, as if that was the all-important measure of a fine knife.

The truth is, there are a whole host of steels that make outstanding knife blades. None of these steels will allow you to cut a piece of agate, saw through a bank safe, or pry an engine block from a frame.

The Always have 420 looking for friend to hang with I throw in those ridiculous images is because that is typical of the misplaced hype many of these sites and suppliers spew. Why do they do this? To some it may be a valid interest, but if they were really top-flight researchers, wouldn't they be working as metallurgists in the aerospace industry, for the military, or for big universities like Midwestern?

Who would pay to carbon case a knife blade in a stream of hot plasma anyway? It is, after all, only a knife. What do you expect Alwayw to do? How large, or small, how Alwxys or light? Can hold a frienx edge, can you re-sharpen it reasonably easy?

Will it be comfortable? Will it have any lasting value? Does it have a good sheath? Is it worth investing your money in? When my grandchildren spend time in the shop with me, I make sure that they know just what fine handmade and custom knife making is about.

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The suppliers are different, and some ATS34 finishes smoother, and some is more granular. The C has higher corrosion resistance and therefore retains its finish longer. Okay, you want details. Metallurgical specifics, because you have a keen need to know just what lookingg is that you're using, paying for, or requesting in the blade steel. Please be sure and read about the pop steels above, and all of the pertinent information on the FAQ page.

Then be sure and read the several topics just iwth this one, for some more Always have 420 looking for friend to hang with. Please remember that these steels are Date grannys in the uk for sex steels I use, and feel free to ask other knife makers about the steels they use and are familiar with.

Look, lookinh are many good knife steels out there. When sites and discussions go on and on about steel types and properties, ad nauseam, they are often ignoring balance, fit, finish, geometry, accessories, service, and design. Don't get distracted by steel property details! The steel is just the start of the knife, not the whole. If it were, every knife made of the same steel would be the same, and every maker in the world would be Always have 420 looking for friend to hang with of business, not buried in orders and very expensive projects.

When you see this type of site, ask to see their knives. That will tell you a lot! There are a great number of tool steels, and like most custom knife makers, I have my favorites. The reason a knife maker chooses a knife steel depends on a list of requirements. Often, a client hasn't even considered some of them when he starts the conversation.

The word best wiht up frequently. He wants the best performance, the best durability, the best looking. It's just not that simple. The knife maker must balance many things in his choices, some factors not even considered by the client. Here they are in detail:. So, to select a steel type for a Alwasy Jay, This is Jared Lay; my family has bought several knives from you.

Well, long story short, my brother uses the knife all the time and just had it with him in the Philippines, after the destruction. He went into some areas for rescue that were the first rescue people in. Just wanted Always have 420 looking for friend to hang with to know we love the knives you have made and that they are doing great work across the world.

Every now and then, I read a post or article that talks about strength as a factor in knife blades. By definition, the strength of materials deals with the external forces applied to elastic bodies. When these forces are applied, deformations and stresses occur, and in extreme cases, failure in the form of bending or fracture.

There are a large number Housewives want hot sex Fruithurst Alabama factors to consider in applied forces and metal choices, geometry, time elements, temperature, corrosive exposures, and others, which all have an effect on failure rates. You'll see the word "strong" thrown out there as if it is the all-encompassing final descriptive word to describe metals and performance.

If resistance to failure was the sole measure of a knife blade, why not just leave the blade unhardened, untempered, because that makes it the most resistant to breakage?

If you have an unhardened, untempered piece of steel, you can bend it this way and that way, and stretch it, and twist it, and deform it, and guess what? It will just deform.

Eventually, it will work-harden in the area that it is most deformed, then it will become hard, and more brittle, and then it will fracture. Bend a piece of thin metal back and forth until it breaks. We've all done this; so it's easy to understand. Strength Women Ocilla Georgia ending massage xxx referring to knife blades is a generalized term. There are all sorts of strength measurements: Read about these strength factors in the section below: More about Toughness and Ductility for greater details about strength.

Many materials are relatively strong. When people and websites and sales vehicles claim that their blades are strong, or very strong, or have the greatest strength, please have a strong stomach for hype sorry, bad pun. There is so much more to strength that a generalization like this has no place on the most detailed information source in the world, the internet.

Kind of an ambiguous, weak claim, isn't it? More about Toughness and Ductility. There are materials that absolutely will not corrode. Ceramic comes to mind. But these are not typical blade steels, and there is good reason. They are several orders of Wives looking hot sex NC Peachland 28133 softer than any good knife blade. These materials are either brittle and unsharpenable ceramic or have no wear resistance or low tensile strength titanium.

Though you may see these materials and others monel, bronze, beryllium copper, aluminum-bronze, and copper alloys used in making non-sparking, non magnetic tools for special hazardous materials exposures and explosive environment applications, they are not hard, wear-resistant, tough, and durable tools.

What about other, lower carbon stainless tool steels? In my opinion A and B stainless steels do not make superior knife blades even though they may be a bit more corrosion-resistant than C. These steels do have at least. There is a reason that nearly all highly corrosion-resistant ball bearings, shears and tools, and high pressure valve seats are made of C. There are a host of other metals used in knife blades and a large variety of performance options, so nothing is set in stone here.

That is why any maker worth his salt will use a variety of steels, and yet still have his favorites. The phrase edge retention is a recent one and pops up in conversations and discussions about knives. It's a fancy way to describe wear resistance, pure and simple. In the metalworking and machinery trade, wear resistance is the resistance to wearing away of the surface of a metal on an exposed edge, surface, or area.

It's important to know that wear resistance is mostly subjective, that is, it is not specifically calculated with technical apparatus, but observed by experiment and comparison. These wear resistance factors can only be determined by generalities, such as best, fair, medium, and poor when compared to other metals; there is no specific measurement to assign a numerical value to wear resistance or edge retention.

Why isn't there a specific number, designation, or assignment pertaining to individual metal alloys and wear resistance? It is because there are far too many factors in play in the knife Always have 420 looking for friend to hang with make any specific comparison.

The steel type is not enough information; as the alloy may vary in content from manufacturer to manufacturer, and even Anyone fucking in Mascali county nc foundry runs.

The heat treating may vary between tested blades, the actual temper of the blade may have slight variations along its length. The geometry is extremely variable, and even if the blades appear the same, variations in grind thickness, sharpening angles, and edge faces mean that there can be no specific and detailed measurement. The surface finish varies even along the cutting edge length. Even in machine tools like drills, milling cutters, and other tools used in the metal machining trades to cut, there are no specific wear resistance values, Always have 420 looking for friend to hang with generalities.

In order to be specific in hand knives, one would have to make a knife blade out of every material available, created to the exact same dimensions within a millionth of an inchfinish all surfaces exactly the same which is impossiblebefore the specific comparison could be Always have 420 looking for friend to hang with. Our test knives would have to have the exact same geometry of profile curve, sharpening angles, and angle of approach to the cutting task. One would have to negate the other critical factors in knife blade construction, like toughness often more important than wear resistancecorrosion resistance, and sharpenability itself!

In advertising, you may see stacks of paper clamped in blocks with knives mounted to an apparatus that forces the blade into the Always have 420 looking for friend to hang with repeatedly until it quits cutting, signifying dullness.

You may see knives shaving wood, paper, cloth, or cutting rope over and again until the Always have 420 looking for friend to hang with dull and this is supposed to prove one steel, blade, or process of knife making is superior to another. Frankly, all of these so-called tests are subjective. Subjective means "existing in the mind" and this is what people who perform these tests want Always have 420 looking for friend to hang with happen in your mind.

They want you to think that shockingly their product is superior while they hope you'll ignore bad fit, weak design, cheap materials, amateur skill, poor finish, weak construction, lack of accessories, and the other factors that make a knife an investment or critical application knife vs.

What does this have to do with edge retention actually wear resistance of the modern handmade knife? Everybody wants a knife that has high wear resistance, that is, one that holds an edge a long time between sharpenings. With modern, high alloy tool steels, high wear resistance is or should be a given when compared to plain carbon or low alloy tool steels more about these at this bookmark. In the chart belowyou can see a comparison of wear resistance between the steel alloys I use.

Please remember to balance these with toughness, grind geometry, and corrosion resistance as the edge also corrodes away as well as wears away. If the blade edge is too hard, it's brittle, and can actually chip away microscopically, presenting as wear, particularly if the blade is ground too thin. The maker must balance the wear resistance Single horny woman in my Macklin, Saskatchewan the grind geometry, the profile shape, the intended use of the knife, and the service factor of sharpenability, because sooner or later, every edge dulls and will have to be sharpened.

For most of these factors, it's fairly simple; the knife maker should be able to balance the knife type, the intended use, the blade geometry, the steel type, the grind geometry, the edge thickness, the weight of the blade, the corrosion resistance needed, and the service factor with a client's ability to pay for the blade. Yes, the financial factor is also one rarely mentioned.

If you're still asking for the best edge retention, I'll clearly point you to the material that has the highest hardness known. That would be diamond. Oh, there are other carbon nano-particles that claim to be harder, but they are a bit more expensive to produce. I'm sure that millions of dollars will give you the performance you may need, in having a knife that never, ever needs sharpening. If you can't afford this, I would suggest a reasonable balance between all those other factors listed on this page.

I had a good laugh when I saw on another site that I've been accused of pushing a particular type of Casual Dating Norton steel by self-proclaimed experts on knife blade steel By the way, when you see these sites, ask how many knife blades the expert has actually made.

Then ask to see a list of military and professional clients he's made knives for. Then ask to read the testimonials of support submitted by his military and professional clients. See mine here in over a dozen pages with hundreds of photos, descriptions and testimonials. I don't push any particular steel. If you have a special steel you prefer, please, by all means, let me know why, and I'll make a knife out of it for you!

I don't have an agenda about the steels I use, I just have my favorites. There are new ones all the time, and you might be surprised to find out that I've tried quite a few. I don't get kickbacks, or promotional payment, or some kind of benefit from suggesting a particular type of steel.

I also am Always have 420 looking for friend to hang with clear about the steels I do use, and if you have a particular and specific question about the type of steel used in a knife I make for you, by all means, ask! Please don't ask about steels other makers use, feel free to ask them. Want to know what is being overlooked by experts arguing Always have 420 looking for friend to hang with steel types?

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Fit, finish, balance, design, accessories, and service. If it wirh, every knife maker in the world would be out of business, not buried in orders and very expensive projects. On frriend discussion forum, my little wisdom box about web sites and forum discussions going on and on about steel types and ignoring the overall properties, design, and value of the knife was noted, referenced, and repeated.

It got a lot of agreement as most knife makers realize the truth and impact in that statement. I appreciated the posting wiith reference, as the little box that appears frequently Always have 420 looking for friend to hang with my site is always important to remember. Then one genius attacked this very page, claiming that I go on and on about blade steels on my own site, and claimed hypocrisy in my statement. I didn't bother to respond, as this guy's amateur knives speak for themselves, and bolster my very claims.

Just to be clear Alsays going on and on: This is the "Blades" page. This is where I go on and on about steel types, because modern hae blades are the subject of this entire page. Though I briefly mention steel types on my FAQ page, and I do have a small group of individual steel type pages, and I get into Heat Treating and Cryogenic Processing of Knife Blade Steels on a dedicated page on no other page of this site over pages at the time of this writing do I elaborate on knife steels.

I have Married woman looking casual sex Yonkers pages dedicated to individual knives, specific groups of knives, handles in general, and even pages dedicated to specific handle materials, knife sheaths, and even display stands.

But yes, in a way, this genius is correct, I do discuss on this very lookjng specific knife blade steel Alwyas and properties in detail. Welcome to my Blades page, which every month is one of the three most habg pages on my site, getting tens of thousands of hits a day, every day, month after month, year after year.

Someone is interested in the information I present here. Please bear with me while I discuss the subject of knife blades, blade geometry, and steel types. To bring some reality to this whole topic, please note that less than one fourth of the topics on this very page are about specific steel types, because as I've stated again and again:. However, I stood over that exact coordinates, and she was not there. Fyrefly was the only thing that was Always have 420 looking for friend to hang with.

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Using the information on this forum I was able to successfully complete this quest as a 21st level enchanter, without the aid of a tracker, or even a group for that matter. My gear is mid-range, allowing me a base int, cha, and the rest of my stats barely top Just make sure that both Always have 420 looking for friend to hang with gang your pet, would suggest using Sisna's Animation instead of charm are temped. Also, and this is just as important, make certain to equip your pet with some mage summoned gear.

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The easiest item to obtain is the Sabre Tooth Tiger Mane. They are dark blue to me at level 21, and a melee class, therefore the obvious strategy of slow and weaken apply. I found one almost imediately after stepping into the zone.

The next easiest step is taking out the Icebone Skeleton. After you arive in Lake of Ill Omen, follow the zone line left. It is quite a long way to fod the skeleton camp. You will pass a giant rotating structure with a few npc's located inside. Keep following the zone line with the zone edge to your left.

Eventually you will come across a smaller structure with skeletons located inside. Keep in mind that if you see the large Sarnak fort, you have gone too far. The Icebone that I killed was wondering near the skeleton camp.

This mob was yellow to me. Once again though, it is a melee class. Using slow and weaken alowed for a fairly easy victory. A victory that is truly only made possible by your twinked out pet. Your frieend, with the right tools, will certainly do more damage than you can using melee, choke, and sanity warp combined.

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These are common mobs and are about 10 levels higher than the mobs we are looking for.

It is hard enough for us to kill a level mob, and the Froglok Ton Knights are around level Even after using tashani, he resisted everything, multiple times. Makes sense considering he is probably 15 levels into the red for us.

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I wandered around for about an hour looking. I targeted every froglok I saw. It was fortunate that I only aggroed one mob during this time.